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		<title>By: che</title>
		<link>http://countermeasures.trendmicro.eu/apple-macs-no-crashes-or-viruses/comment-page-1/#comment-6652</link>
		<dc:creator>che</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>luv you&#039;re a whiner wo is complaining about functons and features, not the issue here, w7 meets or beats all that, we are talking about viruses/malware, u missed the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>luv you&#8217;re a whiner wo is complaining about functons and features, not the issue here, w7 meets or beats all that, we are talking about viruses/malware, u missed the point.</p>
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		<title>By: che</title>
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		<dc:creator>che</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>get a life , apple lovers, any platform can be attacked, in every way, a virus, malware etc  is just a program, anything that can run a program can be attacked/hacked etc, simple as that.  apple is a titanic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>get a life , apple lovers, any platform can be attacked, in every way, a virus, malware etc  is just a program, anything that can run a program can be attacked/hacked etc, simple as that.  apple is a titanic</p>
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		<title>By: Ask Me</title>
		<link>http://countermeasures.trendmicro.eu/apple-macs-no-crashes-or-viruses/comment-page-1/#comment-4417</link>
		<dc:creator>Ask Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 00:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a recent Mac owner (4 weeks), Ive had a couple of kernel panics and just had to turn off my computer because iCal Helper, WindowServer and ScreenSaver were using up 100% CPU - no way to reset. Up to now Ive had more issues with this machine than a decade of WinXP and Win7... It&#039;s also been the most expensive machine Ive owned. And yeah, a Trojan would be fairly trivial to write for OS X.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a recent Mac owner (4 weeks), Ive had a couple of kernel panics and just had to turn off my computer because iCal Helper, WindowServer and ScreenSaver were using up 100% CPU &#8211; no way to reset. Up to now Ive had more issues with this machine than a decade of WinXP and Win7&#8230; It&#8217;s also been the most expensive machine Ive owned. And yeah, a Trojan would be fairly trivial to write for OS X.</p>
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		<title>By: 5 hyperlinks on Mac Security &#171; According to Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>5 hyperlinks on Mac Security &#171; According to Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kurt wismer</title>
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		<dc:creator>kurt wismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@luv:
suggestion #1 - run anti-malware software on your mac. what type? that depends entirely on what type you&#039;re comfortable with using. what most people are familiar with is the known-malware scanner type of anti-malware product (which many people simply call &quot;anti-virus&quot;). it&#039;s generally the simplest to use so that would be a good start.

suggestion #2 - don&#039;t think about your mac as being any different than the pc&#039;s you&#039;ve used in the past. all the same precautions you used to take with pc&#039;s you should still take with your mac. mac&#039;s streamline the process of running as a non-admin, but that&#039;s a precaution people should have been taking with pc&#039;s anyways so again, little difference there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@luv:<br />
suggestion #1 &#8211; run anti-malware software on your mac. what type? that depends entirely on what type you&#8217;re comfortable with using. what most people are familiar with is the known-malware scanner type of anti-malware product (which many people simply call &#8220;anti-virus&#8221;). it&#8217;s generally the simplest to use so that would be a good start.</p>
<p>suggestion #2 &#8211; don&#8217;t think about your mac as being any different than the pc&#8217;s you&#8217;ve used in the past. all the same precautions you used to take with pc&#8217;s you should still take with your mac. mac&#8217;s streamline the process of running as a non-admin, but that&#8217;s a precaution people should have been taking with pc&#8217;s anyways so again, little difference there.</p>
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		<title>By: luv</title>
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		<dc:creator>luv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 06:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ummmm okay look. I am a mac idiot. lolol when i was growing up i had mac, then when i got to highschool and yada yada yada i was introduced to pc, from there i never had access to another mac.  All these years i loathed the issues i had with my pc, i even got pretty handy at light repairs.  But this year i finally got a mac, i really like it, but i&#039;m wondering what preventative measures i can take to protect my investment. Your all arguing about technical words, and even state that this should educate the consumer, but none of you have said one thing about what i can do to protect my mac from all the technical crap you claim can be damaging to my system.... Any suggestions, what type of antivirus do i need? do i even need it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummmm okay look. I am a mac idiot. lolol when i was growing up i had mac, then when i got to highschool and yada yada yada i was introduced to pc, from there i never had access to another mac.  All these years i loathed the issues i had with my pc, i even got pretty handy at light repairs.  But this year i finally got a mac, i really like it, but i&#8217;m wondering what preventative measures i can take to protect my investment. Your all arguing about technical words, and even state that this should educate the consumer, but none of you have said one thing about what i can do to protect my mac from all the technical crap you claim can be damaging to my system&#8230;. Any suggestions, what type of antivirus do i need? do i even need it?</p>
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		<title>By: ADias</title>
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		<dc:creator>ADias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What can I say?
To the Counterpoint: 
Read a bit... http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2006/02/macosxleap.html

and before starting writing... investigate...

and regarding the Kernel Panic issue... well... you also don&#039;t have the hundreds of thousand of different hardware device drivers to use the thousands of diffrent hadware devices and combinations possible... you&#039;re pretty much stuck with what Apple sells...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can I say?<br />
To the Counterpoint:<br />
Read a bit&#8230; <a href="http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2006/02/macosxleap.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2006/02/macosxleap.html</a></p>
<p>and before starting writing&#8230; investigate&#8230;</p>
<p>and regarding the Kernel Panic issue&#8230; well&#8230; you also don&#8217;t have the hundreds of thousand of different hardware device drivers to use the thousands of diffrent hadware devices and combinations possible&#8230; you&#8217;re pretty much stuck with what Apple sells&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LoLo</title>
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		<dc:creator>LoLo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lolz @ the Apple Fanboy.

Besides that fun, did anyone else catch the irony in that ad? The whole &quot;many PCs vs. one Mac&quot;. It&#039;s all about market share, baby! Gains in market share by Apple drives up the &quot;It’s all about Return on Investment&quot; desirably to asshats. More market share for Apple = more motivation to haxor them.

Of course I&#039;m surely a &quot;AppleHater&quot; based on my acknowledgment of basic economic principals applied to the badware market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lolz @ the Apple Fanboy.</p>
<p>Besides that fun, did anyone else catch the irony in that ad? The whole &#8220;many PCs vs. one Mac&#8221;. It&#8217;s all about market share, baby! Gains in market share by Apple drives up the &#8220;It’s all about Return on Investment&#8221; desirably to asshats. More market share for Apple = more motivation to haxor them.</p>
<p>Of course I&#8217;m surely a &#8220;AppleHater&#8221; based on my acknowledgment of basic economic principals applied to the badware market.</p>
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		<title>By: kurt wismer</title>
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		<dc:creator>kurt wismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@counterpoint:
&quot;Yet, one proof-of-concept virus that gets passed from one Mac to anouter via Bluetooth in an office room, is somehow equal to the Windows mess out on the internet. Contrived logic, indeed.&quot;

you do realize, of course, that NO ONE has EVER said that the mac has as big a malware mess as the pc does. 

the mac has a much much MUCH smaller mess, but it has a mess none-the-less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@counterpoint:<br />
&#8220;Yet, one proof-of-concept virus that gets passed from one Mac to anouter via Bluetooth in an office room, is somehow equal to the Windows mess out on the internet. Contrived logic, indeed.&#8221;</p>
<p>you do realize, of course, that NO ONE has EVER said that the mac has as big a malware mess as the pc does. </p>
<p>the mac has a much much MUCH smaller mess, but it has a mess none-the-less.</p>
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		<title>By: Counterpoint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Counterpoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 11:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paperghost, that was a cheap shot. I&#039;m sorry. I got pissed because I thought that &#039;Paperghost&#039; was a sock puppet for Rik. 

To the others, I&#039;ll take my Angry Apple Guy, caps-lovin&#039;, contrived logic elsewhere. I&#039;ll wait out in a bunker built by  Sophos. 

No. I won&#039;t. But, when an actual Mac virus is out there. Then, I&#039;ll rationally respond to it. Not to the jacked-up hysteria promoted by WinCheeleaders trying to divert attention from the mess they deal with daily, or self-interested malware protection software developers who&#039;d be better off making people happy with some decent games, instead of bottom feeding where there is no &#039;crud&#039;.

BTW, most of the world DOES NOT know — what you know, Paperghost— that &#039;Windows is a shambles, capable of being pwned by the most basic kind of spy/ad/malware imaginable.&#039; If they did, why would 89% of the world continue to use it?

I can&#039;t figure out why mainstream journalists [FWIW, I was being non-confrontational, when I called Rik that] need to dumb things down for the masses, yet bloggers who speak most directly to the tech inclined — do, aswell. You&#039;d think that a &#039;grassroots reporter&#039;, would promote correct terms from the bottom up.

BTW Sub_Wrath, Rik said in his initial response to me that he uses &#039;virus&#039; to mean &#039;malware&#039;, because of the necessary &#039;marketing speak&#039;. You read that, right?

Windows gets hammered by thousands of malware, daily. Yet, one proof-of-concept virus that gets passed from one Mac to anouter via Bluetooth in an office room, is somehow equal to the Windows mess out on the internet. Contrived logic, indeed.

Oh well, coming here I&#039;ve learned my lesson. My eyes have been opened ;-)

Gentlemen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paperghost, that was a cheap shot. I&#8217;m sorry. I got pissed because I thought that &#8216;Paperghost&#8217; was a sock puppet for Rik. </p>
<p>To the others, I&#8217;ll take my Angry Apple Guy, caps-lovin&#8217;, contrived logic elsewhere. I&#8217;ll wait out in a bunker built by  Sophos. </p>
<p>No. I won&#8217;t. But, when an actual Mac virus is out there. Then, I&#8217;ll rationally respond to it. Not to the jacked-up hysteria promoted by WinCheeleaders trying to divert attention from the mess they deal with daily, or self-interested malware protection software developers who&#8217;d be better off making people happy with some decent games, instead of bottom feeding where there is no &#8216;crud&#8217;.</p>
<p>BTW, most of the world DOES NOT know — what you know, Paperghost— that &#8216;Windows is a shambles, capable of being pwned by the most basic kind of spy/ad/malware imaginable.&#8217; If they did, why would 89% of the world continue to use it?</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t figure out why mainstream journalists [FWIW, I was being non-confrontational, when I called Rik that] need to dumb things down for the masses, yet bloggers who speak most directly to the tech inclined — do, aswell. You&#8217;d think that a &#8216;grassroots reporter&#8217;, would promote correct terms from the bottom up.</p>
<p>BTW Sub_Wrath, Rik said in his initial response to me that he uses &#8216;virus&#8217; to mean &#8216;malware&#8217;, because of the necessary &#8216;marketing speak&#8217;. You read that, right?</p>
<p>Windows gets hammered by thousands of malware, daily. Yet, one proof-of-concept virus that gets passed from one Mac to anouter via Bluetooth in an office room, is somehow equal to the Windows mess out on the internet. Contrived logic, indeed.</p>
<p>Oh well, coming here I&#8217;ve learned my lesson. My eyes have been opened ;-)</p>
<p>Gentlemen.</p>
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