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		<title>By: Articles about Windows 7 as of August 27, 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Articles about Windows 7 as of August 27, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Security Essentials replace OneCare adequately? clubhouse , Connect , Security Essentials , Story   Apple anti-malware? Snow joke! &#8211; countermeasures.trendmicro.eu 08/27/2009 It looks, on one hand, as it Apple are now alive [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Security Essentials replace OneCare adequately? clubhouse , Connect , Security Essentials , Story   Apple anti-malware? Snow joke! &#8211; countermeasures.trendmicro.eu 08/27/2009 It looks, on one hand, as it Apple are now alive [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rik Ferguson</title>
		<link>http://countermeasures.trendmicro.eu/apple-anti-malware-snow-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-4147</link>
		<dc:creator>Rik Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 18:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We didn&#039;t when I wrote that, we do now :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We didn&#8217;t when I wrote that, we do now :)</p>
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		<title>By: Little Me</title>
		<link>http://countermeasures.trendmicro.eu/apple-anti-malware-snow-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-4145</link>
		<dc:creator>Little Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So do Trend do an anti virus software for Mac?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So do Trend do an anti virus software for Mac?</p>
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		<title>By: Rik Ferguson</title>
		<link>http://countermeasures.trendmicro.eu/apple-anti-malware-snow-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-3680</link>
		<dc:creator>Rik Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for joining in the debate al,  the threats currently in the wild for MacOS are Trojans, absolutely, but I see no reason to suppose these will be less succesful on the Mac than they currently are on the Wintel platform. Trojans are by far the most prevalent form of malware on Windows too right now. They rely on socially engineering the user, and the user is most often the weakest link. If you&#039;re dumb enough to download the pirated software or the fake codec, then you&#039;re probably dumb enough to give it your password when it asks you for it.
Malware exists for Mac OS X and malware is being succesful on Mac OS X, just check out the botnet that Krowi came up with.
Figures on infected machines are difficult to come by of course, as most infected users are simply unaware they have become victims.

As regards the word &quot;virus&quot; I didn&#039;t use it, I said &quot;malware&quot; which has a much larger definition. I would personally accuse Apple marketing though, of knowing that most non-savvy users use the word &quot;virus&quot; to refer to ANY malicious software, including the Trojans I referenced, and thus their ad campaigns are at best unhelpfully misleading. It is not helpful when we judge &quot;standard computer users&quot; by our own knowledge. I am sure most non-technical folks would have real trouble explaining the differences between the different types of malware, and to be honest, they shouldn&#039;t have to. They do deserve though, clear and honest information from the companies with whom they do business</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for joining in the debate al,  the threats currently in the wild for MacOS are Trojans, absolutely, but I see no reason to suppose these will be less succesful on the Mac than they currently are on the Wintel platform. Trojans are by far the most prevalent form of malware on Windows too right now. They rely on socially engineering the user, and the user is most often the weakest link. If you&#8217;re dumb enough to download the pirated software or the fake codec, then you&#8217;re probably dumb enough to give it your password when it asks you for it.<br />
Malware exists for Mac OS X and malware is being succesful on Mac OS X, just check out the botnet that Krowi came up with.<br />
Figures on infected machines are difficult to come by of course, as most infected users are simply unaware they have become victims.</p>
<p>As regards the word &#8220;virus&#8221; I didn&#8217;t use it, I said &#8220;malware&#8221; which has a much larger definition. I would personally accuse Apple marketing though, of knowing that most non-savvy users use the word &#8220;virus&#8221; to refer to ANY malicious software, including the Trojans I referenced, and thus their ad campaigns are at best unhelpfully misleading. It is not helpful when we judge &#8220;standard computer users&#8221; by our own knowledge. I am sure most non-technical folks would have real trouble explaining the differences between the different types of malware, and to be honest, they shouldn&#8217;t have to. They do deserve though, clear and honest information from the companies with whom they do business</p>
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		<title>By: al</title>
		<link>http://countermeasures.trendmicro.eu/apple-anti-malware-snow-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-3668</link>
		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s get a couple things straight.

First, there are still zero viruses for Mac OS X (there were viruses for Mac OS before they switched to unix, but who cares about that now). There are a few trojans (that won&#039;t spread on their own), and Apple is beginning add some protection against them. Even without this and without any other 3rd party anti-virus, Mac OS X is still less likely to become compromised than a Windows machine running internet security software. So adding a buffer in case somebody was dumb enough to download a pirated program that is infected with a trojan to prevent infection can ONLY further the idea that Macs are indeed more secure.

And second, are you sure that only a few Apps have the protection? That screenshot shows &quot;eject disk image&quot; as an option, not &quot;delete.&quot; If the disk image was just downloaded by a program, it wouldn&#039;t be mounted, and the button would say &quot;delete&quot; instead of &quot;eject.&quot; However, if it is a tool built into the Finder (which would provide protection when downloaded from ALL programs), only then would it scan only once mounted and be able to show a button to eject it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s get a couple things straight.</p>
<p>First, there are still zero viruses for Mac OS X (there were viruses for Mac OS before they switched to unix, but who cares about that now). There are a few trojans (that won&#8217;t spread on their own), and Apple is beginning add some protection against them. Even without this and without any other 3rd party anti-virus, Mac OS X is still less likely to become compromised than a Windows machine running internet security software. So adding a buffer in case somebody was dumb enough to download a pirated program that is infected with a trojan to prevent infection can ONLY further the idea that Macs are indeed more secure.</p>
<p>And second, are you sure that only a few Apps have the protection? That screenshot shows &#8220;eject disk image&#8221; as an option, not &#8220;delete.&#8221; If the disk image was just downloaded by a program, it wouldn&#8217;t be mounted, and the button would say &#8220;delete&#8221; instead of &#8220;eject.&#8221; However, if it is a tool built into the Finder (which would provide protection when downloaded from ALL programs), only then would it scan only once mounted and be able to show a button to eject it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rik Ferguson</title>
		<link>http://countermeasures.trendmicro.eu/apple-anti-malware-snow-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-3664</link>
		<dc:creator>Rik Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pet, Trend Micro have anti malware and safe surfing solutions both for enterprise and consumer available, but I try really hard not to push product on this blog. Thanks for asking though!

Cheers,
Rik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pet, Trend Micro have anti malware and safe surfing solutions both for enterprise and consumer available, but I try really hard not to push product on this blog. Thanks for asking though!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Rik</p>
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		<title>By: Rafal Los</title>
		<link>http://countermeasures.trendmicro.eu/apple-anti-malware-snow-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-3663</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafal Los</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold the phone!  I&#039;ve been seeing ads on my TV non-stop about how Mac is the system without all the viruses, trojans, bugs and crashes... this totally changes my world view!

Or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold the phone!  I&#8217;ve been seeing ads on my TV non-stop about how Mac is the system without all the viruses, trojans, bugs and crashes&#8230; this totally changes my world view!</p>
<p>Or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Pet</title>
		<link>http://countermeasures.trendmicro.eu/apple-anti-malware-snow-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-3634</link>
		<dc:creator>Pet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is so laughable, why don&#039;t you immediately get in your seats  to develop some anti-virus/malware application for Mac OS? You really should feel some responsibility concerning this, not just stand there like some goofy jokers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is so laughable, why don&#8217;t you immediately get in your seats  to develop some anti-virus/malware application for Mac OS? You really should feel some responsibility concerning this, not just stand there like some goofy jokers!</p>
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		<title>By: Twitter Trackbacks for Apple anti-malware? Snow joke! » CounterMeasures [trendmicro.eu] on Topsy.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] link is being shared on Twitter right now. @rik_ferguson, an influential author, said Apple [...]</description>
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